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– August 2, 2010
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im at a loss,my sister found disgusting pictures of young children on her husbands computer,she did everything she thought was right,she got her and her son out the house and reported him,now c.i.d in the place she lives were brilliant but the normal police were acting as if she was a pain to them,everytime she went to see them they brushed her off like a annoying bug,they never wrote anything down they didnt even take the time to investagate when she came home and found a present addressed to her son and had been covered in what smelt like petrol she again phoned the police and they sent someone hours later who told her to destroy the present or they could destroy it,my sister said dont destroy it as it could be used for evidence couldnt it,the police went away and didnt even contact her so she went back to them and they didnt even mention the present so she spoke to c.i.d.and they informed her that the police officer hadnt even reported the petrol covered present,there would not have been any trace of the present if my sister had handed it over to be destroyed,the man in question was prosacuted and recieved 12months in prison but he been out for a couple of weeks and is walking around with his new girlfriend and her family like nothing happened,he lies to the social workers and law pretending he hasnt got family or children around him when we know he has and young children at that,my sister is told hes not aloud to go into her town or near her house then when her friends tell her that theyve spotted him near her house and around the town and that at one stage the friend even followed him they found out hes coming into town by train staying in the towns hotels paying with cash thinking he wont get caught,my sister and the neighbouring people report this the police say oh theres nothing we can do unless he knocks on youre door.now where on earth is the protection for my sister and her child why is she petrified to walk the streets or let her son play outside,wheres the consistancy of punishment why are there not black and white rules laid down to say what the convicted are aloud to do and not,look i think sarahs law is great but its not even the tip of the iceburg why are the police so scared of doing the right thing for the innocent and more worried about the rights of the convicted,im terrified for my sister and her son she doesnt know where to turn or who to talk to and i can understand why.
If this man is not allowed in her town and he does go there and is seen try taking a photograph on your mobile and giving it to the CID who helped originally as he is breaking his bail conditions and can be sent back to prison for this. As long as you have proof the police have to act on it. Goodluck
the cops arent that good at helping as they wont do anything til a crime has been committed. their training is to respect dominating abusive commanding officers and from what ive been told peodos and predators are taught in a similar way. exactly how i dont know. but your sister might need to be vigilant about who starts being friendly with her and her son. especially if someone seems overly friendly, loving and caring etc. anyone who seems to be around all the time out the blue could be stalking for friendship to manipulate. peodos and predators back each other up and their acts are premeditated. just make sure if she does not feel comfortable with anyone then she can keep her front door closed and only she chooses to open it to who she chooses. report anything suss to police even if they dont do anything. most will tell her to sort it out herself, which is probably why there are so many vigilantes out there but ive yet to see any victim turn violent. she has a human right to use whatever means necessary to keep herself and her son safe. so maybe a trip to a solicitor might be an idea. there are some out there who are decent and respectable.
Not only have the authorities been unhelpful they have also spend a harsh amount of tax payers money and time and effort into keeping HIM safe! Nothing for my little boy. Today I find that they have housed him into a ‘special’ house but have put NO restrictions on him staying out and going wherever he wants!
Life and the authorities are a terrible thing and going back in time I wonder if I knew then what I know now, would I have even had my little boy as this world is a horrible place!
Sarahs law has ruined my life, 7 years ago i was mistaken for a peadophile, by the sun newspaper, I have been beaten 29 times by vigilante mobbs, tens of thousands of pounds in debt, legal fees. went into hiding for a year, had to quit my job, leave my home of 40 yrs, had nerveous breakdown, was left homelless with no money. Still looking over my shoulder, The Guilty party was protected, given a new home in a different town while i was left to fend for myself. He has since reafennded, been imprisoned, now is back on the streets, In my town , The pain i have and am still having to endure is …………….. words cant describe. Want to know more just Google my name. David Gazley.
David
I am horrified to hear you have been a victim of mistaken Id and I am sure everyone who visits this site or is a supporter of Sarahs Law will agree with me. We do not condone in any way shape or form vigilantes, they and their actions can only detract from the brave efforts of Sarah Payne and the News of the World campaign.
However to blame the actions of these idiots on Sarahs Law is an error I feel. Seven years ago Sarahs Law was far from what it is today and I would go so far as to state that if the same happened to you today, the people who beat you up would not be so ignorant as they would have been able to determine that you were NOT a threat by utilising a fully fledged Sarahs Law act.
I hope you can get your life back together, please feel free to post your stories here.
Admin, Your Words, An Error on my part. Just come out of hospital, comer for three months, beaten again by mob mistaken for peadophile,(Name removed)Not Me. people Be carefull Who You accuse, Because Hearsay can destroy Innocent Lives.If you Have Doubts About someone, Its Simple,ASK THE POLICE, They will give you the info(In Confidence)
ADMIN NOTE: We DO NOT advocate in any way the use of vigilantism. We do not condone anyone taking the law into their own hands. As above, the Police are there to help. ALWAYS seek the advice of the police in the first instance.
the police will not automatically tell you. once they establish you have a ligitimate reason for seeking information on a person, due to a child in the family being at risk and/or displaying signs of abuse. then they will investigate and reveal “the person in question’s history”. Even when the risk is evidently real!, the authorities in my opinion are too slow to respond and keep informed the very people distressed enough to iniciate a full scale enquiery.
we dont just need sarahs law, we need the US’s megans law. cus that would help prevent innocent scapegoats like david being attacked. ive been accused of alsorts and nasty stories being spread by the peodos that attacked me and nearly killed me. people need to start questioning the people who point the finger first. and not jump to conclusions. every victim is lied about by the perpetrators. its how they save face in public and cover up their guilt. violent thugs are just looking for an excuse they can make up or use to try and justify their actions. maybe if we had a real legal system, we would all be safer. how do i get in touch with admin to pass on some information about our corrupt legal system. i was told by peodos some years ago why our courts do what they can to keep peodos on our streets. i was ondering if admin is interested in what i have to pass on.
i googled your name and saw your story. really sorry to see youve been treated that way but its not sarahs law thats at fault. its clear that the fault lies with an over zealous reporter who jumped at the chance of spreading shite like they do before getting their facts right. we all know what the papers are like for spreading rubbish and most people dont believe what they read. there are some people who have a few brain cells in this world. i hope they compensated you properly for their mistake and prosecuted those who hurt you. but please dont blame this site or sarahs law. cus its people like you they are trying to protect. peodos dont just attack children, they attack anyone they can of any age. the people that run this site are doing what they can for everyones safety.
the peadophille (convicted) next door has seven step children with his wife and has access to boys and girls. young girls and boys being his preference. thanks to sarahs law and the norfolk constabulary my children will be safe with me to watch over them. unfortunately i am forbidded from telling his new wife and seven very vunerable step children. i have to have trust in social services.
social services is crawling with unconvicted peodos. who is stopping you from informing that woman of the truth? we kinda know that the legal system is about covering up the truth but if your speaking the truth then your just exercising your freedom of speech. oh but then we dont have that any more nowadays do we? but people it seems are allowed to spread lies and gossip! i wonder why? id tell her and if you can, show the proof and say you just want her to be aware. but be careful. there are female predators too and they are very promiscuous. its your choice either way but if you keep it to yourself, dont beat yourself up if something happens to them as its not your fault. its the authorities fault for letting the sickos out. personally id like to put the noose round their neck for a change. only i wouldnt bother reviving them afterwards like they do to us. but thats my personal feeling.
ye know ive just read what i wrote and i have a question for you all. after nearly 40 years of torture and terror from gangs of peodos and violent street youths, i finally have the desire to put that noose round their necks for a change. (not that i will cus i wouldnt have the guts) but does that make me as bad as they are? i do know that when the idea went through my mind, i wasnt laughing like they were when they did it to me!
i live on a council estate in leicester . we hav just found out through the local paper that my friends next door neighbour is a convicted paedophile. he lives in a location directly overlooking a childrens playarea. how can he be allowed to live there? we certainly dont want him living there!!!
my daughter was sexually abused by her own father, she was not his only victim, the police brushed us off likewe were wasting there time and social services did nothing to help her cause at 4 yrs old she couldn’t tell them the time it happened, i was accused of telling her what to say, my daughter was l8er removed from my care, but he is still walking the streets of north london proberly looking for his next victim(s) , lets just hope HARINGEY social services don’t come to me for help with his next victim(s)
The law needs to be changed to protect our children more …my daughter told me her dad touched her when she was 5, I immediately left the home and relocated with her. She has told the police on video what he done, me, teachers, social workers and to my horror ..he has not been charged, they say not enough evidence…. what more do they want? Why is my child not been protected and listened to ? unless he harms her more serioulsy he cant be charged.. this is absurd and sick..she should not have to be serioulsy harmed before they can do anything!!!.i put my faith in the legal system and they have failed me…he has got away with it..I feel sick…he is now trying to see her and fighting me in the family courts ..I am dying inside…. i have no fath in the law at all….what do i have to do to protect her… it is wrong in every way,,,he is walking around free an could do this to another child,…so help me god x
i am a 50 year old gay man. 15 years ago i was married and had 4 children, life wasnt easy my wife was a control freak and if nothing whent her way all hell let loose. anyway when we divorsed and i came out my 3 girls who wher in ther teens where fine with it, my wife was not, i could understand her feelings and the hurt she was feeling but i had to be honest i was living a lie and it was killing me. i will never deny my children and would die for them, 12 months after the divorse my ex wife re married and her new husband wanted to adopt my 5 year old son and change his name, i said no as he was my son and would carry on my surname, that was dec 1999. january 2000 the police paid me a visit and said i would have have to go to the police station with them, when we got ther they arrested me and said that my wife said that i had raped my son, i hit the floor and my life fell apart. the c i d and the police where brilliant i cant fault them at all. after getting all the paper work together and my ex wife making the hospital examin my son the said there was no evidense that my son had been abused sexualy, the c p s didnt take it to court as they said that this woman was a verry vindictive and bitter towards me. that didnt stop her she then went all around the town where i lived and spread nasty and vicious lies to the piont that people who i had known for years wher spitting in my face and throwing stones at me and my windows, i couldnt even take her to court as the solicitor said it was just hearsay. my life was over. i have a new partner and told him everything that whent on in my life we are solid but i miss my children all who have grown up and have children of ther own, because of my ex wife i will never see my grand children grow up
i am really lost and confused… the idea of sarah’s law sounds great…. but i have recently had a lodger move into our family home, and within a week of him being here, his ex phones us up and leaves messages on the answer machine to say that he is a peadophille…. i do not know what to do and have contacted the police who have told me that a crb check will show something like this. we have confronted him witht he message and he denys it, and said he has a recent crb that he can show us. i red on the internet though that someone being on the sex offenders register will not show up on a crb unless they are wanting to work with children, or have been banned from working with children… i am really confused and need this sortted asap as do not want to put anyone at risk!
any reply would be greatful!
Jay, Hope This Will Help, An Inhanced Disclosure Will Show All Offences, Its Beyond Me Why There Are Two,There Should Be One To Show All. My Life Was Turned Upside Down Being A Lodger, Turned out the son of the Landlord Was a Peadophile, you need A Refferance To move Into Lodgings, But You Dont Need A Ref From The Landlord To Make Sure You Are Going to Be Safe With Them (Hmmmm)
Whem I was Five or six years old, I was sexually assualted along with three others. When I came forward he police investigated and the three more victims came forward. He denied everything, becase the crimes happened so longa go. So the Pedo walks free. I have recently been told that child porn was found on his lap top and a file has gone forward for him to be charged. Here is the arse kicking bit. I Know where he lives , I know he a retired prison officer, I know here he lives, I know he has adapted two girls. Nobody has interviewed them. If I name him I will be sued by him, if name his road I will be sued by him. What can I do please. I live in dublin Ireland. He lives about two miles from me. Who is looking out for the adapted children. Regads Anthony
Please can someone tell me how this works. How do you go about finding out if a new partner is a risk to your children?
Please read “How it all works” above.
i think i have sex offenders in my area how do i find out for definate
Please read “How it all works” above.
Hi, I am a single mother and my boy is 5 years old. I have recently moved into a new home in a little village (ive been there 6 months) as soon as I moved in a notice a man that likes to sit on a bench on the corner of our street, he seems to sit there morning noon and night. when I walk passed I say ‘Hello’ or ‘morning’ to be polite as I think he is very lonlely. To be honset im not sure if he is a little slow. Anyway I was in bed the other night around half ten and there was a knock on my door, I didn’t answer as I thought it was late and worried about who it could be. The next morning I took my boy to school and passed the man on the bench and as usual said hello, he told me he had knocked at my door the night before because he has a present for my little boy (he knew my son’s name and I don’t no how) later on that day when my son and I was back from school he popped round with the present. Im confused I dont want to be mean to the man and he does seem lonley and maybe just wants to be nice and try and be friendly, but with the world the way it is I can’t help but feel caucious! HELP! what can I do? or what shall I do? or am I overreacting?
It’s possible the man talked to your kid, if he’s old enough to be out on his own. He could be genuine, no douibt. In these days, however, it is unusual behaviour and you are right to be concerned. A number of angles occur to me:
1. He is lonely, maybe had a kid of his own and unable, for good reason, not to be able to be with him/her etc
2. As 1, but bad reason domestic violence etc
3. Immature personality, feels more comfortable with kids but safe
4. Has paedophile tendencies but has not so far acted on them
5. As 4, but grooming
6. As 5, but has record and/or has offended before but not caught
7. Known to police and on watch – soft intelligence
Suggest contact police for advice – they may also know him ….
8. After all that, one of life’s oddballs
peodos are often stalkers and they gather information about their victims, they also stalk lone parents too to get their hands on children. im lonely cus i dont trust people. but ive never hurt anyone and i certainly do now stalk people or hang around. gifts are a way of them trying to buy your effection. anyone who hangs around offering children gifts be aware of. ive been attacked by numerous peodos both as a child an adult. they have tell tale habits. they speak about love and friendship being important and once they have their foot in the door they are very condemning over slight things that dont matter to gain dominance over you. i would report the guy and speak to a female officer. cus i found that male officers are often violent and not compassionate when it comes to personal attacks or possible threats. and always remember. you have a door and a key and you choose who you open it to. you dont have to.
typo error on previous message. is supposed to say ‘i do not stalk or hang around places’. also theres nothing wrong with sitting on park benches but i would always go with your gut instinct. alarm bells dont go off for no reason. and most of mine in the past were spot on. if it dont sit right then it probably isnt. i would rather take precautions and be safe than sorry.
My mother in-law lives in Poole, in Dorset. She lives with a man that won’t put his name on the lease. He’s a total creeper. I called the police to do a check. They asked me why I had suspicions, and I told them that it’s just a really bad feeling I get around him. Also, he’s got no kids and he’s in his late 50′s. But, his two places that he repeatedly goes on vacation are Dinsneyworld in USA and Bangkok in Thailand. There’s also the new behavior of my mother in-law around him. She has to ask him before she talks to us, and if she’s in the middle of telling us something that he doesn’t like, he coughs and she just shuts up. They live across the street from a school and next to a park. He doesn’t work and he just walks the dog to “escort” the kids to and from school.
Am I being paranoid?
i dont think your being paranoid at all just reading your message about him has made my skin crawl have you spoken to your mother in law about this?
Contact police and social services asap. Whose kids? This is clearly concerning.
reading what kim83 said brings back terrible memories for me, this guy maybe harmless but for me its simple dont accept any gifts from him & make it clear that you would rather he stayed away, around 2yrs ago my family was destroyed by a peadophile & he wormed his way into my family, he lived local & was a general builder & started doing odd jobs for my family, then buying little gifts for my niece, when we started to worry what his intentions were we called the police to report his behaviour they was not bothered & we felt terrible for thinking like this, but 1 yr down the line our fears came true he was a peadophile & his wife was involved she would encourage children into there home, this was part of the reason why we got it wrong because he had a wife & child we did not treat it as you would a man living alone, anyone can be a peadophile as i now know, married with children, any age, male/female etc its a shame it took such a terrible thing to happen for me & my family to realise this, never trust anyone with your children i know that sounds extreme but i feel its the only way to keep kids safe, my family are not silly people we are street wise & was made fully aware of peadophiles when we were kids my dad drumed it into our heads & i cant believe that we allowed my niece to become a victim of a peadophile, dont ever feel guilty for thinking about someone in this way as i can assure you that you will feel more guilty for not thinking like that if the worst did happen, today i found out that i have a known peadophile living several doors away from me, a guy i have spoken to when passing in the street & stands in my childs playground everyday to collect his daughter from school & lives next to the local play area, he admits what he is,, i need to do something about it but im not sure what to do?? from what ive said above for obviouse reasons this is very important & close to my heart, thats why i looked into Sarahs Law as i remembered the tragic story & her mothers fight to change the law, does this law apply in all counties?? how do i go about finding out information about this guy, i know his name & other details but im sure he is breaking some of his conditions, im not sure what to do, i mean i cant tell my local council to move him, i cant go to my childs school & ask them to ban him from collecting his child, any suggestions would be helpful.
thank you
I would rather feel paranoid and guilty for thinking the worse of someone rather than guilty that id let a child get harmed purely to protect my pride.
New to this site and very sorry to bother anyone. I understand everyone on here is concerned but i don’t know where else to turn.
My partner’s ex has met a new man via the internet. They met say 8 wks ago and he (the new partner) has sinced visited every weekend, taking residence in her home for the last 6 weeks. My partner’s children are in that flat with a relative stranger and their mother appears to show very little concern for the chidlren’s welfare – she has even left the children alone with this practical stranger.
We have the new partners first name, area of residence and car reg number. We have tried and been unable to obtain his surname. How do we find out more about this man? What is the next step? Can Sarah’s Law help us and how do we access it?
Other organisations and institues have been relatively little help to us.
Any informantion would be greatly appreciated, many thanks
x
Born2Perform – Phone the Police with the information that you have. You appear to have valid reasons as the children are your partners. They will be able to find out additional information using his Reg No and assess things accordingly. We have been through something similar, although it was new friend that we discovered was a convicted paedophile and spoke to the Police within 24 hours. He is now on bail for breaching his conditions of release.
Go striaght to the police these children may be at severe risk and you could prevent them being harmed. Protect them PLEASE
Ive Commented Several Times To try To Help you ( All ) With your worries As has admin For Goodness sake READ ABOVE, and listen to your questions answered by people who know. READ ABOVE!!!!!!!!! Its simple. Read Above Does not mean just the comment above yours, for the simpleton. The Help Is There. Take It.( Ask The Police ) Dont Take Someone At Their Word (Ask The Police) Would Be Over the moon to recieve a responce saying yes we get it. Come On Lets Get Ridd Of This Evil. Sorry for the soap box moment, But Come on.!!!!!
lol, hope your moment has calmed down. i think what some people on here are concerned about is how to spot a predator, what signs to look for, when should they be concerned. many people like myself have the problem of finding a brick wall of ignorance when we do ask police for help. so we are left wondering ‘now what’ and its not just about peodos but other crimes too that cops ignore. so many of us get accused of being paranoid. made to feel like being over sensitive etc. alarm bells dont go off for no reason. the only time i would tell someone to question things is if its gossip setting off those bells. when its cus of someones behaviour its different. and should be taken seriously. one thing i will say about the sickos that came after me. they were very confident that everyone would do as they demanded. and pretty much everyone did. including cops. the jekyll n hyde characters are proper freaky. ive been reading peoples experiences, seeing similarities. there are many sites online too that are being run by predators who are fishing for victims by pretending to be victims or support for victims. but when you take a closer look and question what they are saying the story is a bit different. so i would advise people to be careful of giving out information and being too trusting. the second we stop questioning, could be a second too late.
Fao Admin, Heard Today The Government have decided to reduce checks on those working with children,( Head & Brick wall comes to mind.) Lost for words At moment. Any input Would Be Grately Recieved.
I have heard this today.
There are problems with CRB checks as they stand at the moment.
For parents who have friends who want to share the collection of their children from school or where ever a CRB check is ludicrous. Other checks should still be conducted but these checks are out of date as soon as they are conducted. A serial and committed peadophile is not going to be deterred by these.
I feel they still should be in place, at present its the best we have, but they need seriously looking at.
What do you think? Do they offer what you would expect? Do you think they are valid?
I would love to hear everyones opinions.
In my opinion, in their present state they offer little benefit.
yeah, i know a few heads id like to slam up a brick wall too. great idea david. if only eh. wouldnt change anything though. i knew a prison officer who turned out to be a peodo. from what my son said i managed to get him away from her in time. but she told me how the forces are trained to admire and respect abusive commanding officers and that she respected and admired the prisoners she was happy to serve every shift. after revieling my disgust i managed to get away from her. i was made to feel guilty cus she didnt cause me or my son any physical harm. now i dont though. i also know the difference between an innocent person who has been wrongly accused and a lying predator who pretends to be a victim for sympathy. its religous satanic abuse and is encouraged by the church which is why our government doesnt do much to protect us. but at the end of the day we are each responsible for our own actions and there are no excuses for destroying any child.
My Job Requires two disclosures, I work with children & vunerable people, My Schools ID Lasts For 3 Years, Yet Anyone With This Id Who Committs A Crime, Instantly Looses their Liscence, A National Id Card Would Be The Way To Go, I Think, Would Hold All Info, (I Know Big Brother & All That) But If You Have Nothing To Hide. The New Chipped Passport Makes Things Run Smoothly When I Travell, Because it holds so much info, Peadophiles Sometimes Work Together Grooming Their Prey, In Possitions Of Trust, My Life Was Ruined By A Peadophile, I Was Mistaken For Him By a National Newspaper, The Government Are Protecting him,feeding him, paying his rent, 8 Yrs On Im In Massive Debt, Beaten 29 Times By Mobbs, Scared Of My Own Shadow, Etc. Peadophiles In High Places Maybee( Or Maybee Im A Tad Paranoid )
some members of the gang of peodos that attacked me are professionals. and i know of two females who got jobs as professionals through the back door because they are religous and support lcal peodos. they say they dont but are friends with them so its arranged by other savage religous sickos so they can get a prefessional job without the qualifications. its them arranged for them to be qualified. we have thousands of decent people studying their arse off n uni’s to do good in this country and they dont stand a chance of getting that job cus its already been decided who the jobs are for. people like me see the truth cus nobody listens to me. so peodos brag. one woman is a drug pusher, dealer, groomer, catholic and got a job high up in the childrens team of social services without being qualified. the other is a christian who was granted a job as a nurse in the local hospital, is now out about being gay and has death fantasys about people and control over personal medical files. both are close friends with violent homosexual peodos. so youre not paranoid. cus its not paranoia when people are really corrupt. we know they are. and peodos call their victims paranoid. might wanna bear that in mind.
I was sexually abused by my dad from the age of 5 to 17, he has been in prison for a little under 6 years and is due to be released early march. I have spoken 2 the victim unit at the national probation just to be told im not allowed to know the exact date he’ll be released or where he will be going! I know that he’ll be back in my home city but im not allowed 2 know where!
Trinny, I’m so sorry to read of your terrible circumstance. Sadly although the authorities attending to you call themselves Victim support, it’s not you they are supporting. We have the same thing at the moment where my son’s birth father is out of prison and moving back to his home 10 mins away from us and yet ‘victim support’ cannot give me a specific date of when he will be there. Instead, we have to take a chance not bumping into him and his girlfriend. All I would suggest is to keep a look out, talk to as many close friends who will support you and they can be your eyes also. take care.
victim support, your local charities that have councellers for victim of violence and youre local authorities are not working to protect victims. i was drugged, poisoned, raped, tortured repeatedly by family members and a repeat peodophile as a child. he went to prison for a few months even though the sentence was 2 and half years. the courts did everything they could to get him off as lightly as they could and he made a pact with my family to lie in court together to protect each other. he got out, made a B line for me and was ordered out of town. i was then targetted by other men in the area he was friends with. my family kept me drugged up that much i had no idea i was drugged. to me it felt normal cus they were doing it every day. i didnt grow much so im small and as an adult he sent violent trained lesbian peodophiles after me who kidnapped my son, held him to ransom and they used knives to threaten me into doing what they ordered me to. the cops shouted at me and told me to be a good girl, do as i was told and keep my mouth shut. they also blamed me. im isolated, i live alone, my family now have my son doing drugs and hes sick alot too. i live alone and ive been repeatedly attacked by violent large women who pretend to be friends and druggies. the councellers at a local charity i saw a few years back are predators who are friends with the women who nearly killed me. one of them works with them. they have perpetrators outside the door listening in and they arranged for me to be attacked again and targetted by the same gang while they were taking details of the crimes they already knew about. predators often make out they are very loving caring people and they succeed in life cus nobody tortures them. they also get jobs in schools and help services to make themselves look like the sun shines out their arse. scuse language. their jobs are to empower them and other predators by keeping victims silenced. every single one that has come after me knows the others. they are sociable and very confident people that are trained to play the victim if they get caught. every single one, is religous, trained from childhood with instructions from other peodophiles, are practiced in lying through their teeth, they tar their victims with their own brush publically to generate public hatred. and every single one was a closet homosexual. from what theyve each said its religous satanic abuse to stop us leading normal lives. and they do it cus those in authority are trained to respect sick violent peodophiles. im 40 years old, i have physical health problems cus of whats been done to me, doctors are aware of whats been done to me but mess me about and refuse to diagnose me. im unable to work and ive been terrorised by violent druggy youths because of the stories that sick peodophiles spread around about me. when they tell us they rule this world, they prove it when everyone around us beleives their sick lies. ive never hurt anyone. my dreams of falling in love with a nice guy and having a family and career have been destroyed by sick religous peodophiles. how they are trained and what cocktails of drugs they use, only they know. peodos aer trained. victims arent. its time we woke up to the truth and did something real about it.
i no exactly hoe u feel they are trained and the victims arnt its wrong and is still going on respect to sarahs law
for every victim like sarah and my young friends who lie in their graves, and those who like me never get our human rights to freedom to live, everyone misses out on every wonderful gift each one could have shared with us all. can you imagine how wonderful our world would be without religous psychotic peodos and violent psychopaths? the real religous terrorists are those on our doorstep threatening, blackmailing and attacking our youngsters and decent adults, screaming about love and friendship in public and being something disgusting behind closed doors. we all have a choice. they know exactly what they are doing and the legal loopholes that have been created to protect them. if you dont do what they want they lose their power. an easy way to spot them is they are trained to create no-win situations. and they like pushing peoples buttons to provoke arguements. our courts are supposed to be used so we can have a none violent method of protecting each other and our kids. but how can we when its run by predators?
I know a man 50+, lives near maidstone. He was in court a few months ago, he had hundreds of pictures of children on his computer-he told the judge he was on it as he cudnt get a flat & move out of his hostel, thus if found he could get a place in jail. He served time in prison before. He was charged then with raping a disabled child, making his teen daughter pregnant, and raping & disfiguring a woman as she looked at him & he thought she fancied him, when she refused he did that to her. For his latest crimes, he got a suspended sentance, no access to computers & no access with children under 16. But his single mum girlfriend (who has 2 little girls) is standing by him. He still lives on an estate surrounded by children..where is the justice for the poor victims, especially the disabled child, who couldnt even use her voice. I have not put a name as i dont know if im allowed, data protection tosh etc..It was in our local paper.
A good friend of mine had a conversation with a satanist who told him he knew of a group of satanists who were using mind control on a 16 year old girl in their care. They were grooming her to become a paediatrician. Who would suspect a pleasant young female doctor might be a serious danger to their children? I have encountered social workers who protected a female paedophile. I later found out they were friends and looked after each others children. I agree with you. It is not paranoia to suspect or know that many professionals are offenders. Being in a situation like ours makes us untrusting and, let’s face it, a bit crazy. A helpful psychologist once looked at my file and said “It’s easy to see that this would be enough to send anyone mad”. So the abusers and their defenders always say “They’re saying that because they’re paranoid.” We know we’re right. The people who refuse to even think about the possibility are paranoid, they’re scared of the truth and that makes them irrational. There are so many things in your comments I can relate to I could go on typing forever. I’ll just say I support you.
last week i found out from my sons dad’s ex girlfriend that he sexualy abused their 3 yr old daughter and also 2 litle boys that he used to babysit prior to that, that was 13 yrs ago and since that he has changed his name n moved to another city..
i was with him for 5 yrs and had no idea that any of this happend, social services said they cant tell me if its tru, my biggist fear is that he did something to my son, my son lived with him from age 18 months to 2 1/2 yrs alone, i never had a problem with this as i thought i cud trust him, obviously i couldnt.. hull police r being helpfull and thanks to sarahs law i will hopefully get to know the truth
i met a man in 2004, even checked him out online, he said he’d been working with a charity for fathers, helping them with their rights etc. I found out he was doing that, and it seemed to check out fine (I didnt know about Sarah’s law at the time,. or if it even existed as early as January 2004) After a short while, we moved in together and in due course we married. There was something that didnt quite “fit” though at the time I didnt see what it was though everyone who met him said he was a very convincing and controlling person.I also became disabled at this time, which was partly his fault. On moving us to a very secluded village, he spent a lot of time with my daughter, and i was left in charge of his son and my son whilst he was out. He had set up a business from home buying job lots on at auctions and selling things on at a profit. This involved travelling round and picking things up, which is when he took my daughter with him in the car and also to the “lock up” which was where he kept a lot of his stock. Without going into any details, i found out later that he had been abusing her. I had suspicions that he was having some kind of affair and had even voiced to my daughter about this, as we were very close. I thought this as he didnt want anything to do with me, i was just there as a secretary for the business and a babysitter for the kids. When it all came out what he’d been doing to my daughter, from the age of 12 up till she was 14, on an almost daily basis, i immediately contacted the police and he was taken away, placed on remand and not let out till his trial about 8 months later. For some unknown reason the jury found him not guilty and he was let out and his son moved in with him, in which time he would follow my daughter in town from a distance and hound us. He had left me financially destitute too as he had not paid any bills in the time he’d been with us and i was left to pay these off as the authorities concerned could not trace him. He tried to get control of the house i lived in, as it was in his name, but due to the unpaid rent while he had lived here, and since he’d been “away” i had made sure it had all been paid on time, i was given the house, and he lost it, the tenancy was turned over to me and i was finally able to get the locks changed. It was wonderful to not have to worry about coming in from shopping and not having to search the whole house before letting the children come in. I found out that at the end of last yr he died. I know now he cannot hurt any other child or my children ever again.
I hope that if anyone had checked with Sarah’s Law, on entering into a relationship with him, that it would have flagged up what he did to my daughter, even though he was found not guilty by a court of law, the police had seriously considered him a threat as they refused to let him have bail. Thank God, the women and children of the world have been spared that. However I hope that Sarah’s law will help hundreds and thousands of others to detect pedophiles so they dont have to go through what myself and other mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters and family’s have had to go through.
I know of a peadophile because he sexually abused and raped me when i was a (very young looking) 11 year old and he was actually my teacher who spent months grooming me before raping me. This happened twenty years ago and have recently reported it to the police but due to the time ladpse no charges have been brought. I wonder if under Sarah’s law if a parent now had a child that he he had access to now and for somereason concerned about him if the parent asked the police about him if Sarah’s law would come into place even though he hasn’t been formly charged with raping and sexually abusing me as a child?
I just want to say that today Sarah’s law helped my husband and I to gain (at the minute) an interim residency order due to the fact that the mother’s boyfriend is a convicted re-offending paedophile who has raped 2 children. This man had been given sole care of the 6 year old girl by the mother as she works. We felt there was something wrong, made the application. The police officer involved took things out of our hands, informed social services, as an emergency, who informed CAFCASS at court today. All this took less than 24 hours. Without the application being made the little girl would have been handed back to her mother and him today and only god knows what would have happened if something has already not happened!!!!! Thank you so much for Sarah’s law!
I know a paedophile he is my mother in laws husband and they refuse to tell me exactly what he has done to be an offender and haveing a very young daugher n freeing for her saftey I just want to know the truth n I don’t know what to do to find out the truth
I’m afraid to say that i have found this website a few weeks to late. I had conecrns about a friends daughter with nieghbour in a new area where they had just moved to.
My concerns regretably were correct and the unthinkable happened. I just wished i had more information and knowledge about Sarah’s law. I’m not sure if the creators of this website, or law, read these messages but i would urge them to highlight what wonderfull work is happening with sarah’s law and what great outcomes is happening. I really wish i was aware as i could have stopped what happened. It is too late for my concerns but getting the information out loud and clear about sarah’s law could save many other children from the pure evil of some men and women in our world. Keep up the good work Sarah’s law!
A relative has been approached to adopt my niece and social services has told her that my mother in laws partner was convicted of child offences for 4 years (and therefore my niece should be kept away). My Husband and I were totally unaware of this and have a young son. We are very concerned and want to find out what he was convicted of and if my mother in law knew about this. We know that he has a different surname, but we don’t actually know either surname, or address. I only know the street he lives on and first name. What can we do?
just phone your local police station and see what they can do for you. Even with the details you have,it’s worth a try,don’t leave it too late like i did!
Im worried about my grandchildrens other nannas new boyfriend, how do i find out if hes ok? Do i just phone the local police station with the suspects name and tell them my concerns?
Yes, correct. Call your local police and be guided by them. You could always ask to speak with or meet with an officer dedicated to child protection.
I have read these comments with interest and whole heartedly support Sarah’s Law but it’s not enough, my daughter was groomed by a local Police Community Support Officer who pleaded guilty and was given 2 years community supervisory order he is on the Offenders register for 7 years but I know for a fact the case was not reported in the area where he now lives. Also, while he was on bail awaiting trial he was suspended on full pay (tax payers money). I lost a job and tried to commit suicide during this time my whole family were made to feel like we were the criminals, where is the justice in that? CRB checks are a waste of time he proved it, and why doesnt the system take into account that this type of offence is a multiple victim offence my family are falling apart and his wife and children are suffering as well. No-one knows in the area he lives in now, but he returns to our area regularly to be with his children I mean COME ON !!!! am I right to be angry?????
Hello, I’m Chris Robinson from BBC South Today, the regional television programme for the South of England.
We are running a story tonight, Wednesday, July 20th, about Sarah’s Law and how it has been in the South.
I would be grateful if there are any members who have used it to contact me for some guidance.
All information would be treated with sensitivity.
My telephone number is 02380 374540 or chris.robinson@bbc.co.uk.
Thank you for your time
Chris
I have been into court today, the man who groomed my daughter was on further sex offence charges and has been given a conditional discharge… The justice system needs a damn good shake up!!!! I have been told he can now come back to his home to live about 50 feet away from my home!!!! And to top it all he works as a groundsman for a local council how the hell does that work…..
Hi there the same happened to us, but unfortunatly it hasent gone to court, i have been given the news earlier, ime devastated, apparently there wasnt enough evidence, even tho we had a phone recording of the incident, im at my wits end tbh, the cps and the justice system are diabolical, my daughters life is totally ruined, her childhood gone, and we are here to pick up the pieces, hes been slapped on the wrist, told that he will never get a job because of this and thats it, What can we do, to make the system, help the children,? i now know why children are so reluctant to come forward, theres nothing more i can do, but to wait for him to do it again, but why should i have to do that its sick, we are and the cpu 1 million % know he did this, unless they have actually been hurt fully raped or got marks on them for proof, then its a pointless case,
Hi there the same happened to us, but unfortunatly it hasent gone to court, i have been given the news earlier, ime devastated, apparently there wasnt enough evidence, even tho we had a phone recording of the incident, im at my wits end tbh, the cps and the justice system are diabolical, my daughters life is totally ruined, her childhood gone, and we are here to pick up the pieces, hes been slapped on the wrist, told that he will never get a job because of this and thats it, What can we do, to make the system, help the children,? i now know why children are so reluctant to come forward, theres nothing more i can do, but to wait for him to do it again, but why should i have to do that its sick, we are and the cpu 1 million % know he did this, unless they have actually been hurt fully raped or got marks on them for proof, then its a pointless case, the above post is by me, i wasnt a member at the time..
Hi everyone my name is Steve,
I wanted to know how i go about finding out about the people running the under 14′s football club that my son has recently joined?
My wife thinks I am paranoid as she thinks that the coaching staff seem nice, but having been abused as a child till the age of 14 my intuition and ‘inner radar’ are telling me differently!
I totally respect my suspicious nature as it has seen me well in the past, its almost like a sixth sense, I felt my daughter was acting strange and my inner radar went wild, i contacted the police straight away and they later informed me that she was being groomed by 3 paedophiles at the time, so i trust my instincts.
So this takes me back to my original question, how do i enquire about the people running the football team?
Any help and guidance would be very much appreciated.
A few months ago, my daughter and her friend ( male ) was abducted at the top of our street, but thank god nothing happened to them, he must have been in the grooming stage. He borrowed a dog, talked to them about x box’s etc and asked them to go play at his house. He fed them asked them questions. Anyways the kids came home late and said they were somewhere else. To cut a long story short we found where he lived rang police up, told them and they thought nothing of it said they’d get back to us in a week. So as a mum I investigated myself found out he’s name, then goggled it, Well he’d been in prison for child sex offences and just got out, straight back on to the police he was arrested within hours. He’s on trial next year, for more offences, as I went round the neighbours and told them what had happened, more parents came forward but not with good news. What would have happened if I wouldn’t have googled his name? And to top it off my area is being treated like a dumping ground for sex offenders, a 10 year old boy has just been ‘done’ for taking two 4 year old boys from their garden and abusing them only to be moved half a mile from his home, on the next street to me. I am absolutley fuming, is there anything I can do about this, I can’t go round knocking and banging on the door, because then he will become the victim, and I might bugger up the little boys investigation . Thanks, was a bit of a rant but I’m so confused as to why the authorities would place a dangerous child where there are about 50 children living round there….
ok yes Sarahs Law is a gd thing but goin on my experiance we need more than this to keep our kids safe… I got married in 2003 and had my daughter in 2004 due to mental abuse and a number of times of trying to get rid of my husband i divorced him in 2008. in the time since he has messed about with contact of our daughter,but the last 2 wks have sent me into shock really,ive been back in contact with his mother and then his dad and step mother and have found out he is a conviced pedofile in 2000.i know he had been in trouble with the police as he was arrested after we got married but i was lied to on what it was about.Ive now been informed that he was not ment to have anything to do wth kids.then yesterday went to see my solictor and found that i cant protect my daughter with the law as he has perantal responsiblaty as we where married when she was born and the only way i can get an injunction on him is if he makes threats to us or if he takes me to court for access.Also Ive been informed that even if you are on a sex offenders reg. or on probation for sex crimes that u can still go on to have have kids and social services dont usually get involed,how wrong is that… i feel sick at the thought my daughter was put in that danger when her dad was on probation for sex crimes and i didnt know about it nor where socail services informed. How can our kids be protected from these crimes if not even probatrion services do anything about it??????
I seriously think something in our laws need to be changed so that kids can be protected more as they stand at the moment i cant protect my daughter until its to late basically!!!!
Oh what a pain!!!
After having used Sarah’s Law successfully to find out that my step-daughter’s mother’s partner is a paedophile and having gained an interim residence order for the little girl, having been to court twice now and having been able to prove that the mother continued her relationship with this guy and is now pregnant by him, even though she swore to the court, social worker and solicitors that she had ended the relationship and having put in a full residence application, my husband and I now have to attend a 2 day court hearing as the mother has contested it, in order for a judge to decide where the child is best off living. Also having children’s services on our side and having to listen to continous lies from the mother, my husband and I now have to find £7000 to go to this court hearing to be represented by a barrister to try ensure that the little girl will never come into contact with this man agin!!!!!!!! It really bugs us that we have to spend so much money to try to ensure a child’s safety, surely after having being proved to be a liar, the mother cannot be trusted with her child’s life or am I being picky???? We are not wealthy and its a struggle, but you cant put a price on a childs life!!!! Sorry for the rant!
Has anyone herd of Ray Wyre???? Ray Wyre is a charity that is related to helping children at risk of abuse?! My family and i find them rather questionable as the have been known to have “rehab-housing” for known offenders…..can anyone help me please, i have court next month and need help asap x
I’m interested in knowing if Sarah’s Law will also include child on child crime? My daughter’s been sexually assaulted by a boy of the same age who also stalks her on a daily basis & I’m having a great deal of difficulty in getting the police to deal with this matter properly. I’ve heard similar stories from alot of other people who are reluctant to report it so all I’ve been able to do is record it in my ASB diary which I’m passing on regularly to social services. This boy & his family were moved to our area after being evicted from another area & I feel that history is now repeating itself. Can anyone help or give advice please, I’ve tried everything even multi-agency meetings
My daughter has the same problem, the boy who goes to the same school as her sexually assaulted her. the police have dropped the case, social services say he is a low risk so do the child protection agency. This if even though he assaulted his step sister as well. The boy is back at school . Nobody seems to care and my daughter has started self harming. Everyone has given support to that boy but my daughter has been forgotten.
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Can I ask does Sarah’s Law include being given information when it’s a child that’s causing the crime? My daughters been assaulted by a 12 year old boy & I believe that his family have been moved to our area due to this happening before.
Been and had a meeting today at school, it seems the boy who assaulted my daughter is a victim! HELLO am i the only person who knows that this 13yr old is a sexual predator?! The school are pushing for me to remove my daughter to another school so that to them the matter is then closed surely that boy should be made to move instead. there is no justice.
in march of this year, a man i know to well (my ex) was found guilty of possesing indecent images of children on his computer that he has downloaded from the internet. he was jailed for 1yr and able for release in 6months on good behaviour. 6months has been i guess because i saw him today (wednesday 19th october) in my hometown (littlehampton) me and my mum both saw him and now iam worried because i have 3yr old son and i dont want him near me, my child or my friends children. is there anyway to know if hes staying in this town, or if hes living nearby?
Does Sarahs Law apply in Scotland yet? If so how do I go about getting my ex-wifes boyfriend checked – all I know is his first name despite my partner having supplied all of her contact details to my ex.
I do not personally have experience of using Sarahs Law, however am doing some research as part of my dissertation into whether england should adopt a more accessible registry similar to megans law in america. I would be most grateful if anyone could share their opinions with me? anonymity and confidentiality will be kept at all times. Many Thanks
MY 16 YRS OLD DAUGHTER IS KEEN TO RENT A ROOM NEAR T0
HER WORK BASE WHICH IS OVER 20MILES FROM HOME .SHE FOUND AN ADD ON LINE WITH A BLOKE RENTING NEARBY WHO IS WILLING TO RENT TO HER CONSIDERING HER AGE .HE SAID THAT HE AND HIS PARTNER HAD SPLIT UP AND THAT THE EXTRA CASH WAS HANDY FOR MORGAGE ETC., BUT IM VERY UNEASY ABOUT HER SHARING WITH A MAN LATE 30.S EARLY 40.S .I WENT TO THE LOCAL POLICE STATION WITH THE BLOKES ADD AND VEH REG AS I HAVNT GOT A SIR NAME AT PRESENT BUT WE ARE DUE TO GO OVER THERE TONITE TO VIEW THE ROOM ,MY DAUGHTER HAS MEET HIM BUT IS MORE INTERESTED ON MOVIN OUT THAN THE SAFTEY MEASURES BEING A TYPICAL TEEN , I WAS CONSERNED THAT HE MAY HAVE A PREVIOUS RECORD ETC AND WAS HOPIN THAT THE POLICE COULD DO A GENERAL CHECK AND IF ANYTHING SERIOUS FLAGGED UP THEN ALL THEY HAD TO SAY WAS “NO I WOULDNT” OR YES .BUT THEY SAID THEY COULDNT HELP EVEN GIVEN HER AGE SHE WAS 16 IN JULY . THO THE OFFICER ON THE DESK SAID TO LOOK UP UR WEBSITE SO IM HOPIN U MAY BE ABLE TO ASSIST .WE ALL HAVE A HISTORY BUT I WANT TO ENSURE IM NOW ALLOWING MY DAUGHTER TO LIVE WITH THE DEVIL IN DESCISE , ALSO WHEN WE VISIT TONITE I WILL BE ASKING IF HE OBJECTS TO A POLICFE CHECK”WEATHER I CAN GET 1 DONE OR NOT” BUT IF HE SLIGHTLY HESITATES THERE IS NO WAY I WILL ALLOW MY GIRL TO MOVE IN WITH HIM . AS IM SLIGHTLY SUSS TO WHY HE HASNT GONE THREW AN ESTATE AGENT . ANYHELP WOULD BE GREAT MANY THANKS JENI
I understand your concerns and would suggest that you do not let your daughter move in.
Please go through recognised and authorise letting agents where the proper checks can be done on any prospective landlord.
I was raped when i was 15 (6 years ago) by my mums husband. I didnt say anything because he was violent hitting us and my mum all the time, so i thought one of us would lose our life if i opened my mouth, so i told my younger sister and begged her not to say anything. I reported it to police nearly 2 years ago because the defendant had left my mums home and they started building my case. We were due a trial in July but after starting to talk to an old friend again she brought to my attention that i had told her when we were 15. The trial was changed to 19th December 2011 to give them time to get my friends statement. I was told there would be a jury and me, my younger sister, my mum and my friend had to attent court. We were told that we were not allowed to speak about the violence the defendant had displayed which i thought was relevant as thats why i didnt say anything earlier. I was on videolink and the defendants barrister was doing her job making me look like a liar because she had found a txt on my phone off my mum asking if i had told the police she had come home the day she was told or the next day and my reply. I understand that this can be classed as speaking about the case which i was told we were not allowed to do. However we were not getting a story together as the only thing my mum could tell the courts is what her husband was like and a time when she was under my bed. The reason my mum txt that and i replied is i told me older sister first then she told my mum before ringing the police. When my older sister told my mum she said how stupid does it look that you didnt come back the minute you were told. Anyway i was not even asked questions about my statement or anything. Then my barrister and the defendants decided not to use my friend as a witness which really annoys me as the defendant said me and my family were getting our heads together as hes divorcing my mum, so in my opinion using my friend well friend who i hadnt spoke to or spent time with since we left school throws the defendants story straight out the window. Anyway i was told 4 days before christmas this year that he was found not guilty. How can this be? I cant belive that they are letting him walk the streets. He has destroyed my life. Im affraid of the dark, im scared in my own house, scared to go out alone as i could bump into him and he would definately not allow me to walk away. I was a size 12 at the time and now im size 22-24 as i have comfort ate for years. I also have a daughter and my fears for her are seriously bad, shes 2 and i cant bare her to have her own room, i feel uncomfortable when people look at my daughter when im changing her bum and i dont no how i will cope when she starts nursery in January 2013 as i feel i cant trust anyone as the defendant was supposed to be a father figure (someone that should be trusted) but he wasnt. To add insult to injury i was told that the defendant cannot be tried for the same crime again. I dont want the defendant to hurt someone else or someones child as that will be on my conscience because i realise i should have told the police and my mum when it happened. There is no work in the world that can describe how im feeling. Ive suffered for too long to let this rest now. I NEED JUSTICE so i can move on properly.
my son ov 7 was sexually assulted by my nxt door neighbours son but he dunt live ther he lives nwt door but 1 with is grandad due to doin it be for but is mum says they never reportd it ,weve done all the forensics and there positive but yet the police av bailed bck to the street wer we live wer waitin on the cps and all i get of the police officer tht dealin with it is ther nwt he can do cause he not dun nwt to my son since he been on bail it makes me sick its like me an my kids r in a prison pls if any 1 cud gi me any information if thers any thing i can do to get him off my street thank you